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[Ship69]

Somebody in South Bend has to think dominating a conference is a better than an Independent schedule.

The ACC is utterly stupid not bending over to entice them to join.

Yup, the ACC was weak and did what the B1G would not — let Notre Dame participate in their conference without joining in football.

[IUPNation]

We Are……National Champions.

[EyeoftheHawk]

We Are……National Champions.

Penn State and Louisville played seven sets this year. Penn State won six of them and it took Louisville overcoming 10 set points to win the won set they did. The best team won and did so in pretty dominant fashion today.

[Chuck Norris]

Penn State and Louisville played seven sets this year. Penn State won six of them and it took Louisville overcoming 10 set points to win the won set they did. The best team won and did so in pretty dominant fashion today.

It’s a shame Anna Debeer missed the match, but that’s not Penn State’s problem. They won 6 matches, they earned it.

[EastStroud13]

IMO, the real more of the CFP story is: it's really damn hard to go into an opposing team's stadium, against a top-10 quality team, with engaged crowds, and play well. I think 12 teams is fine, and it will be really difficult for any of the 9-12 seeds to win, as it should be.

[IUPNation]

IMO, the real more of the CFP story is: it's really damn hard to go into an opposing team's stadium, against a top-10 quality team, with engaged crowds, and play well. I think 12 teams is fine, and it will be really difficult for any of the 9-12 seeds to win, as it should be.

9-12 are basically second wildcard teams..so yes they are getting a last chance and have to take the long road.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

The PSU QB transfer has signed with Missouri.

[IUPNation]

The PSU QB transfer has signed with Missouri.

Good Luck with that…

[IUPbigINDIANS]

We Are……National Champions.

Speaking of Penn State ...

It was my first time back at Beaver Stadium in about 12 years or so. The atmosphere is incredible. No denying. Like the PSU fan base or not, they make it a living hell on visitors.

As for the actual 'fan experience' ... it certainly has some flaws.

For starters, just 'entering' the stadium is a nightmare. It's a matter of time until somebody is killed in a stampede. The mobile ticketing really slows things down. There are only a few gates, which just get overrun. If you're going in ... go in very early to avoid the drunken stampede closer to kickoff. If you have kids with you, go in very early or after kickoff.

Once inside, if you must hit the restroom, you'll miss about a quarter of the game. I'm sure there are some 'secret' restrooms inside for public use, but the the main ones all have a 30-45 minute line.

Concessions? Eat before you go in. You'll miss another quarter. If you must, just have a lot of money.

The bleacher seating is what it is but those 11" or 12" each person gets is pretty comical. Nobody sat Saturday so it didn't really matter.

Security, while I know it exists, is nearly invisible. There are no ushers. The walk-ways up and down the bleachers are full of standing drunks. They don't keep the 'lane clear' like most stadiums. It further adds time to the food or restroom walk if you are higher up. It takes 10 minutes or so to bob-and-weave through that chaos (each way).

They sell booze inside the stadium now so that adds a new wrinkle. My personal favorite was the two idiots in front of me. They barely made it up the bleachers, then immediately went on a beer run. They missed the entire first quarter. They got back up ... and immediately spilled two full beers on the family in front of them. The group to the right of us showed up mid-way through the first quarter. They all somehow got full bottles of wine through security. Their youngest was about 20 or 21. He immediately fell straight backwards upon trying to walk through the bleacher crowd to his seat. It took several people to get him up. Behind me I had the group of 50-somethings who were likely smashing Jack Daniels since 8 am and for some reason speaking 'Bruh' language.

I paid more for parking than my game ticket - and still had a roughly (1) mile walk.

All of that said, I'm glad I went. It was an experience. It was obviously not a warm day, but 110,000 filled the place up.

It was also an experience I won't be re-living any time soon.

[IUPNation]

Speaking of Penn State ...

It was my first time back at Beaver Stadium in about 12 years or so. The atmosphere is incredible. No denying. Like the PSU fan base or not, they make it a living hell on visitors.

As for the actual 'fan experience' ... it certainly has some flaws.

For starters, just 'entering' the stadium is a nightmare. It's a matter of time until somebody is killed in a stampede. The mobile ticketing really slows things down. There are only a few gates, which just get overrun. If you're going in ... go in very early to avoid the drunken stampede closer to kickoff. If you have kids with you, go in very early or after kickoff.

Once inside, if you must hit the restroom, you'll miss about a quarter of the game. I'm sure there are some 'secret' restrooms inside for public use, but the the main ones all have a 30-45 minute line.

Concessions? Eat before you go in. You'll miss another quarter. If you must, just have a lot of money.

The bleacher seating is what it is but those 11" or 12" each person gets is pretty comical. Nobody sat Saturday so it didn't really matter.

Security, while I know it exists, is nearly invisible. There are no ushers. The walk-ways up and down the bleachers are full of standing drunks. They don't keep the 'lane clear' like most stadiums. It further adds time to the food or restroom walk if you are higher up. It takes 10 minutes or so to bob-and-weave through that chaos (each way).

They sell booze inside the stadium now so that adds a new wrinkle. My personal favorite was the two idiots in front of me. They barely made it up the bleachers, then immediately went on a beer run. They missed the entire first quarter. They got back up ... and immediately spilled two full beers on the family in front of them. The group to the right of us showed up mid-way through the first quarter. They all somehow got full bottles of wine through security. Their youngest was about 20 or 21. He immediately fell straight backwards upon trying to walk through the bleacher crowd to his seat. It took several people to get him up. Behind me I had the group of 50-somethings who were likely smashing Jack Daniels since 8 am and for some reason speaking 'Bruh' language.

I paid more for parking than my game ticket - and still had a roughly (1) mile walk.

All of that said, I'm glad I went. It was an experience. It was obviously not a warm day, but 110,000 filled the place up.

It was also an experience I won't be re-living any time soon.

So The Cig doesn’t seem so bad where you can go pee and get food in a few minutes!! See..accentuate the positive!!

I imagine the 700 million of our taxpayer money going to renovate it will fix those issues. It should have been a new facility built next to it but I guess they’ll find a way to make it better than the piecemeal erector set it is today.

My first ever college football game was Penn State vs Hillbilly High when Frank was the head coach.

[Fightingscot82]

Speaking of Penn State ...

It was my first time back at Beaver Stadium in about 12 years or so. The atmosphere is incredible. No denying. Like the PSU fan base or not, they make it a living hell on visitors.

As for the actual 'fan experience' ... it certainly has some flaws.

For starters, just 'entering' the stadium is a nightmare. It's a matter of time until somebody is killed in a stampede. The mobile ticketing really slows things down. There are only a few gates, which just get overrun. If you're going in ... go in very early to avoid the drunken stampede closer to kickoff. If you have kids with you, go in very early or after kickoff.

Once inside, if you must hit the restroom, you'll miss about a quarter of the game. I'm sure there are some 'secret' restrooms inside for public use, but the the main ones all have a 30-45 minute line.

Concessions? Eat before you go in. You'll miss another quarter. If you must, just have a lot of money.

The bleacher seating is what it is but those 11" or 12" each person gets is pretty comical. Nobody sat Saturday so it didn't really matter.

Security, while I know it exists, is nearly invisible. There are no ushers. The walk-ways up and down the bleachers are full of standing drunks. They don't keep the 'lane clear' like most stadiums. It further adds time to the food or restroom walk if you are higher up. It takes 10 minutes or so to bob-and-weave through that chaos (each way).

They sell booze inside the stadium now so that adds a new wrinkle. My personal favorite was the two idiots in front of me. They barely made it up the bleachers, then immediately went on a beer run. They missed the entire first quarter. They got back up ... and immediately spilled two full beers on the family in front of them. The group to the right of us showed up mid-way through the first quarter. They all somehow got full bottles of wine through security. Their youngest was about 20 or 21. He immediately fell straight backwards upon trying to walk through the bleacher crowd to his seat. It took several people to get him up. Behind me I had the group of 50-somethings who were likely smashing Jack Daniels since 8 am and for some reason speaking 'Bruh' language.

I paid more for parking than my game ticket - and still had a roughly (1) mile walk.

All of that said, I'm glad I went. It was an experience. It was obviously not a warm day, but 110,000 filled the place up.

It was also an experience I won't be re-living any time soon.

Love it. Especially the old heads speaking "Bruh" language.

I haven't been to a game in decades. My older sister went to Penn State back in the days when student tickets were sold on the open market and students would gladly sell their tickets to the less desirable games. My sister got us student section tickets for an otherwise boring game vs Bowling Green. My poor grandma had beer thrown on her from a student launching their full cup down the bleachers. Turns out the game was pretty good. BG was coached by a young nobody named Urban Meyer and the game was Paterno's 300th win.

[Ship69]

Speaking of Penn State ...

It was my first time back at Beaver Stadium in about 12 years or so. The atmosphere is incredible. No denying. Like the PSU fan base or not, they make it a living hell on visitors.

As for the actual 'fan experience' ... it certainly has some flaws.

For starters, just 'entering' the stadium is a nightmare. It's a matter of time until somebody is killed in a stampede. The mobile ticketing really slows things down. There are only a few gates, which just get overrun. If you're going in ... go in very early to avoid the drunken stampede closer to kickoff. If you have kids with you, go in very early or after kickoff.

Once inside, if you must hit the restroom, you'll miss about a quarter of the game. I'm sure there are some 'secret' restrooms inside for public use, but the the main ones all have a 30-45 minute line.

Concessions? Eat before you go in. You'll miss another quarter. If you must, just have a lot of money.

The bleacher seating is what it is but those 11" or 12" each person gets is pretty comical. Nobody sat Saturday so it didn't really matter.

Security, while I know it exists, is nearly invisible. There are no ushers. The walk-ways up and down the bleachers are full of standing drunks. They don't keep the 'lane clear' like most stadiums. It further adds time to the food or restroom walk if you are higher up. It takes 10 minutes or so to bob-and-weave through that chaos (each way).

They sell booze inside the stadium now so that adds a new wrinkle. My personal favorite was the two idiots in front of me. They barely made it up the bleachers, then immediately went on a beer run. They missed the entire first quarter. They got back up ... and immediately spilled two full beers on the family in front of them. The group to the right of us showed up mid-way through the first quarter. They all somehow got full bottles of wine through security. Their youngest was about 20 or 21. He immediately fell straight backwards upon trying to walk through the bleacher crowd to his seat. It took several people to get him up. Behind me I had the group of 50-somethings who were likely smashing Jack Daniels since 8 am and for some reason speaking 'Bruh' language.

I paid more for parking than my game ticket - and still had a roughly (1) mile walk.

All of that said, I'm glad I went. It was an experience. It was obviously not a warm day, but 110,000 filled the place up.

It was also an experience I won't be re-living any time soon.

Yeah, their seating is certainly all about the bucks. I remember going to a game there in the '90s and a friend of mine and his wife were their with their infant daughter. They were charged full boat for the kid, despite the fact that she wasn't even using a seat. You paid mucho dinero to park in a farm field a good distance from the stadium, and from what you say it isn't any better now. Northwestern's old stadium seated 47,000, is located in a built-up city neighborhood, and had little parking, but by walking a couple of blocks to the el or taking shuttle buses (to a free parking area), I was always able to get in an d out of there much quicker than at Penn State. We'll see what happens when they do the promised $700 million renovation. I'll never forget the first game I attended up there in 1966 (Joe Paterno's second game as coach). Stadium seated about 46,000 and was open at both ends. They actually used to have band days when high school bands were invited to attend. You're never going to see that again in the days of NIL.

[Fightingscot82]

Yeah, their seating is certainly all about the bucks. I remember going to a game there in the '90s and a friend of mine and his wife were their with their infant daughter. They were charged full boat for the kid, despite the fact that she wasn't even using a seat. You paid mucho dinero to park in a farm field a good distance from the stadium, and from what you say it isn't any better now. Northwestern's old stadium seated 47,000, is located in a built-up city neighborhood, and had little parking, but by walking a couple of blocks to the el or taking shuttle buses (to a free parking area), I was always able to get in an d out of there much quicker than at Penn State. We'll see what happens when they do the promised $700 million renovation. I'll never forget the first game I attended up there in 1966 (Joe Paterno's second game as coach). Stadium seated about 46,000 and was open at both ends. They actually used to have band days when high school bands were invited to attend. You're never going to see that again in the days of NIL.

Interesting argument for NIL - music students there on scholarship are allowed to take paid performances outside of school. Some of those students are expressly recruited to fill spots in university bands. One of my best friends in high school was an incredible trumpet player and he had his pick of schools and often the sales pitch was "come here, you can make thousands gigging on the side in the city".

[TheBigCat2192]

Speaking of Penn State ...

It was my first time back at Beaver Stadium in about 12 years or so. The atmosphere is incredible. No denying. Like the PSU fan base or not, they make it a living hell on visitors.

As for the actual 'fan experience' ... it certainly has some flaws.

For starters, just 'entering' the stadium is a nightmare. It's a matter of time until somebody is killed in a stampede. The mobile ticketing really slows things down. There are only a few gates, which just get overrun. If you're going in ... go in very early to avoid the drunken stampede closer to kickoff. If you have kids with you, go in very early or after kickoff.

Once inside, if you must hit the restroom, you'll miss about a quarter of the game. I'm sure there are some 'secret' restrooms inside for public use, but the the main ones all have a 30-45 minute line.

Concessions? Eat before you go in. You'll miss another quarter. If you must, just have a lot of money.

The bleacher seating is what it is but those 11" or 12" each person gets is pretty comical. Nobody sat Saturday so it didn't really matter.

Security, while I know it exists, is nearly invisible. There are no ushers. The walk-ways up and down the bleachers are full of standing drunks. They don't keep the 'lane clear' like most stadiums. It further adds time to the food or restroom walk if you are higher up. It takes 10 minutes or so to bob-and-weave through that chaos (each way).

They sell booze inside the stadium now so that adds a new wrinkle. My personal favorite was the two idiots in front of me. They barely made it up the bleachers, then immediately went on a beer run. They missed the entire first quarter. They got back up ... and immediately spilled two full beers on the family in front of them. The group to the right of us showed up mid-way through the first quarter. They all somehow got full bottles of wine through security. Their youngest was about 20 or 21. He immediately fell straight backwards upon trying to walk through the bleacher crowd to his seat. It took several people to get him up. Behind me I had the group of 50-somethings who were likely smashing Jack Daniels since 8 am and for some reason speaking 'Bruh' language.

I paid more for parking than my game ticket - and still had a roughly (1) mile walk.

All of that said, I'm glad I went. It was an experience. It was obviously not a warm day, but 110,000 filled the place up.

It was also an experience I won't be re-living any time soon.

I had the luck to see a game there about 6 years ago when a family member won a pair of tickets through a work raffle to see a pretty good PSU team host a pretty good Michigan team for the whiteout game. Unfortunately despite my family member working for Penn State Health and getting seats marked for that group we were way up in the nosebleed bleachers and the lines to make out each “seat” are almost comically small. You can tell the stadium was built when people were much thinner.

I didn’t have as much of a wait in my restroom trips but I’m pretty sure they were still using the old trough style which was quite the departure from what I was most familiar with from my time at BU.

And yeah as hard as it is to like a lot of them their fans are very intense. I recall wishing I had brought earplugs for a few third and fourth downs, particularly late in the game when Michigan was driving into the student section. I can only imagine that a playoff atmosphere is about two times as crazy.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I had the luck to see a game there about 6 years ago when a family member won a pair of tickets through a work raffle to see a pretty good PSU team host a pretty good Michigan team for the whiteout game. Unfortunately despite my family member working for Penn State Health and getting seats marked for that group we were way up in the nosebleed bleachers and the lines to make out each “seat” are almost comically small. You can tell the stadium was built when people were much thinner.

I didn’t have as much of a wait in my restroom trips but I’m pretty sure they were still using the old trough style which was quite the departure from what I was most familiar with from my time at BU.

And yeah as hard as it is to like a lot of them their fans are very intense. I recall wishing I had brought earplugs for a few third and fourth downs, particularly late in the game when Michigan was driving into the student section. I can only imagine that a playoff atmosphere is about two times as crazy.

Years back -- in the 'biggest capacity pi$$ing matches' -- the 'lines' on the bleachers were actually crunched closer together. All those 'inches' added up and increased seating capacity by the thousands.

I don't know the exact measurements, but they went from something like 16" to 12".