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  • Originally posted by Stanger86 View Post

    I'm not talking about this year. I'm not just talking about Division I.
    Sure, then we split and bring in a couple at that point, if needed. It's just not really a "now or never" moment. Unless the conference knows of upcoming movement already.

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    • Originally posted by NSU4LIFE View Post

      Sure, then we split and bring in a couple at that point, if needed. It's just not really a "now or never" moment. Unless the conference knows of upcoming movement already.
      There is data that the league office has about difficulties of small conferences. I no longer think they'll ever "split" by choice. I think getting up to 20 would happen before going down to two conferences of 8-10 schools.

      Schools on the edge no doubt have already discussed other options. We've heard rumblings about Wayne, Winona, etc. These rumors were around before the Jamestown news and they'd be around after, as much as people want to blame the Jimmies, those discussions have already happened. So the conference needs to prepare for defections. Not by adding programs from Washington or Oregon, South Dakota or Michigan simply because they are already in Division II. There needs to be a strength in numbers from within the footprint.

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      • Originally posted by Stanger86 View Post

        There is data that the league office has about difficulties of small conferences. I no longer think they'll ever "split" by choice. I think getting up to 20 would happen before going down to two conferences of 8-10 schools.

        Schools on the edge no doubt have already discussed other options. We've heard rumblings about Wayne, Winona, etc. These rumors were around before the Jamestown news and they'd be around after, as much as people want to blame the Jimmies, those discussions have already happened. So the conference needs to prepare for defections. Not by adding programs from Washington or Oregon, South Dakota or Michigan simply because they are already in Division II. There needs to be a strength in numbers from within the footprint.
        I've only heard of any of those rumors on here. I think me saying "UIU should take Winona with" was the only time ove seen that.

        It wasn't all that long ago South Dakota was discussing closing either DSU or Northern, neither happened so I would worry too much about message board rumblings.

        If we aren't worried about a split, and we arent worried about D1, then all we have to fear is fear itself...

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        • Originally posted by NSU4LIFE View Post
          If we aren't worried about a split, and we arent worried about D1, then all we have to fear is fear itself...
          You could be elected four times!

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          • Just a spot for a few games next season before dominating NSIC

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            • Too bad the Wisconsin D3 schools would never make the leap to D2 because at least from a football perspective they would come in and make the conference stronger.

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              • https://www.inforum.com/sports/colle...-association-1

                University of Jamestown rejoining North Star Athletic Association
                by Max O'Neill, InForum

                JAMESTOWN - The question of what conference the University of Jamestown's athletic programs will be playing in the 2024-25 academic year has been answered. The Jimmies will compete in the North Star Athletic Association, the conference announced, Tuesday, Nov. 14.

                The Jimmies will return to the conference after leaving for the Great Plains Athletic Conference in the 2018-19 academic year. The conference currently includes Valley City State University, Dickinson State University, and Mayville State University.

                "We're really happy to be joining the North Star for the 2024-25 season," Jimmies athletic director Austin Hieb said in a statement to the NSAA. "We greatly appreciated Commissioner (Roger) Ternes and Dr. (Alan) LaFave's leadership throughout this process. We expect next year to be great for both our student-athletes and supporters."

                On Oct. 11, the member schools of the Great Plains Athletic Conference voted to remove the university from the conference after this academic year, leaving the university without a conference to play in for the 2024-25 year.

                In August, UJ submitted an application to join the Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference for the 2025-26 season.

                The university is hoping to hear about its potential move to the NCAA Division II level and its application to join the Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference by the end of this month. To join the conference, the university needs 10 out of 15 member schools in the Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference to vote UJ in.

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                • Originally posted by wscsuperfan View Post
                  https://www.inforum.com/sports/colle...-association-1

                  University of Jamestown rejoining North Star Athletic Association
                  by Max O'Neill, InForum

                  JAMESTOWN - The question of what conference the University of Jamestown's athletic programs will be playing in the 2024-25 academic year has been answered. The Jimmies will compete in the North Star Athletic Association, the conference announced, Tuesday, Nov. 14.

                  The Jimmies will return to the conference after leaving for the Great Plains Athletic Conference in the 2018-19 academic year. The conference currently includes Valley City State University, Dickinson State University, and Mayville State University.

                  "We're really happy to be joining the North Star for the 2024-25 season," Jimmies athletic director Austin Hieb said in a statement to the NSAA. "We greatly appreciated Commissioner (Roger) Ternes and Dr. (Alan) LaFave's leadership throughout this process. We expect next year to be great for both our student-athletes and supporters."

                  On Oct. 11, the member schools of the Great Plains Athletic Conference voted to remove the university from the conference after this academic year, leaving the university without a conference to play in for the 2024-25 year.

                  In August, UJ submitted an application to join the Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference for the 2025-26 season.

                  The university is hoping to hear about its potential move to the NCAA Division II level and its application to join the Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference by the end of this month. To join the conference, the university needs 10 out of 15 member schools in the Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference to vote UJ in.
                  Still screams desperation move, the NSIC needs to tell them to look elsewhere for permanent membership

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                  • Morris won the UMAC football conference. We should take them.

                    Based on the grumbling in this thread, they are a perfect fit. Unlike UJ, they won something. They are miles upon miles away from anything resembling civilization, which is also a bonus for most NSIC fans, apparently.

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                    • Originally posted by NorthDakotaDragon View Post

                      I have done done some deep diving into this, and I think it will really affect Mary the most for now.

                      Current North Dakota kids on each program's roster:
                      Minot - 5
                      Mary - 18
                      MSUM - 29

                      Just doing some quick Twitter searches, I don't think more than a few kids on Mary's roster (who actively tweeted out offers received) had an MSUM offer. Whereas a majority of MSUM's kids also received an offer from Mary.

                      I am obviously a bit biases, but I don't think it is a stretch for me to say that the bulk of the top D2 recruits in North Dakota end up at MSUM. Not to say that some don't go elsewhere in conference & that the division between Mary & MSUM could lessen if Mary keeps progressing and advancing their facilities way beyond what Moorhead has to offer. But to my point, once Jamestown moves into the NSIC and are in the recruiting mix for those 2nd tier Division 2 players in the state, I think they will be looking to steal some kids that would otherwise end up at Mary.
                      I have to give Shann Schillenger credit. Came into a tough situation during the middle of spring ball and had this team competing for the most part in most games. 2-9 can be built on. I have a feeling UMary will be hitting the portal hard and making dents throughout Fargo. Really interested to see who they announce in February.

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                      • Originally posted by SW_Mustang View Post
                        Morris won the UMAC football conference. We should take them.

                        Based on the grumbling in this thread, they are a perfect fit. Unlike UJ, they won something. They are miles upon miles away from anything resembling civilization, which is also a bonus for most NSIC fans, apparently.
                        You've become the opposite equivalent to OldyellaHer69, whether intentional or not, you made it.

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                        • Originally posted by NSU4LIFE View Post

                          You've become the opposite equivalent to OldyellaHer69, whether intentional or not, you made it.
                          I'm honored.

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                          • UW-Parkside should add football and fully join the conference. That would solve the issue.

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                            • Originally posted by Peacockfan View Post
                              UW-Parkside should add football and fully join the conference. That would solve the issue.
                              First, they wouldn't have to add football in order to join.

                              Second, why would they choose the NSIC over staying in the GLIAC or moving to the GLVC?

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                              • Originally posted by 34blast View Post
                                Instead of Jamestown, I think we should look to add strength to the conference. To me, that comes from an existing D2 member(s). I say look at this map, find someone that makes sense and convince them to move. I see 2 teams in SD already isolated, 2 teams in Washington and Oregon that are isolated. Kerney is close and would make a could rival with Wayne. Lot's of options, but would rather have 1 OOC game per year. Head South, East, West, no more frozen tundra teams in North Dakota.

                                https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._D2_FB_Map.png
                                Out of curiosity, I found an updated map that you linked:

                                https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...2_programs.png

                                As for BH and Mines out west, we're pretty happy in the RMAC, and I pray that neither AD attempts to move to the NSIC. Both schools have big recruiting bases out of Colorado and Arizona, and the RMAC fits well in this footprint. Both schools have raised the the talent level exponentially from the NAIA days. Plus now that that artist formerly known as Dixie State is gone, there aren't really too many bad road trips. The travel cost would be less in the NSIC, but that would not make up for losing our recruiting base in Colorado. Plus, East River is icky... jk haha

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